CourtTVnews.com reporters Emanuella Grinberg and Harry Swartz-Turfle interviewed death row inmate Rocky Barton on July 7 at the Mansfield Correctional Institution in Mansfield, Ohio. He was executed by lethal injection Wednesday morning. The transcript below has been edited for length and clarity.
COURTTVNEWS.COM: Can you start by describing a typical day on death row?
ROCKY BARTON:
Well, start off about
CTV: What kind of shows are you able to watch?
BARTON: We pick up all the network channels.
CTV: Do you have a favorite show?
BARTON: Not really.
I
CTV: Do you read?
BARTON: Yeah.
CTV: What's your favorite book?
BARTON: The Bible.
CTV: Any magazines or ...?
BARTON: I like reading the newspapers that come through.
CTV: Which newspapers do you get?
BARTON: The Dayton
Daily is the one that
CTV: What
BARTON: Recreation.
CTV: What
BARTON: Probably
the hours between 12 and 4 p.m. when I don
CTV: Is recreation indoor or outdoor?
BARTON: They have an indoor recreation cage and an outdoor recreation cage. Every other month it changes up. Outside you have the opportunity to play basketball and handball. On the inside, they have exercise equipment. You can do pull-ups and sit-ups, dips, board games, cards. And the telephone's on the inside, so you have the opportunity to make collect calls.
CTV: Do you have a favorite board game?
BARTON: No, I don't play board games.
CTV: Do you do sit-ups or push-ups?
BARTON: I used to, but I got an injury to my shoulder. I got a torn rotator cuff, so it limits me to what I can do.
CTV: Do you communicate with other inmates?
BARTON: Yeah, during our recreation period is the only time we get to socialize. And there's five of us at a time that get out for recreation.
CTV: Are you friends with any of them?
BARTON: Yeah, I have friends on death row.
CTV: Do you get mail from any strangers or admirers or people you don't know?
BARTON: Yeah, I get a lot of mail from strangers. Most of it comes from the U.K. They're in Lifelines ... an organization against the death penalty, and they write. They write a lot of the death row inmates. I'm not the only one that gets mail from the U.K. They set you up with pen pals. But most of my mail comes from family members.
CTV: Do your family and friends visit you?
BARTON: My family does, yes.
CTV: You have sisters?
BARTON: I have three sisters.
CTV: And both of your parents are alive?
BARTON: Yes.
CTV: Do they visit you?
BARTON: Yes, they both visit me.
CTV: How has life in prison changed you?
BARTON: Well, I believe ... See, I shot myself during the crime. And I believe that God give me one more chance to live to get my life right with Him. So really, it's changed me to be more aware of all the bad choices that I've made. I have a lot of regrets.
CTV: What do you regret?
BARTON: Mostly, about killing my wife. I regret that dearly. I loved her with all my heart, and it was a spur-of-the-moment thing, and it eats me up every day.
CTV: We'll go back to that a little later. You grew up in Ohio, right?
BARTON: Yes, ma'am.
CTV: Growing up, what was your relationship like with your parents and your sisters?
BARTON: I more or less felt like the black sheep of the family. I was the oldest, and my mom and dad … got divorced when I was 15 years old. And my mom pretty much had her hands full with three other kids. I was sort of rebellious, so I stayed in a lot of trouble and done a lot of wrong, you know. Running around, missing curfew. I gave my mom a hard time, hard way to go.
CTV: How about your sisters? What was the age difference?
BARTON: Let
CTV: What
BARTON: Probably
the summertimes. Sitting around with the
family get-togethers, making homemade ice
cream with the old crank turnstile, and
making homemade peach cobbler and just
Sundays at my grandmother
CTV: As a child, what did you want to grow up to be or do?
BARTON: I really
don
CTV: What are you good at?
BARTON: I was a pretty good carpenter. I like building and doing things with my hands.
CTV: Is there any particular moment in your life which you consider a turning point?
BARTON: Yes, when I shot myself I'd say was the turning point in my life. Turned me around and opened my eyes to what I'd been brought up and raised to believe in: God. And I strongly believe that He let me live. By the grace of God, I'm still alive today.
CTV: Can you expand on that? What did you believe growing up?
BARTON: My mother always took us to church as a child. We went to a Pentecostal church and believed in the Pentecostal ways.
CTV: Was there one
thing you or someone else could
BARTON: No, I can
CTV: What decisions do you think you made earlier in life that have brought you here?
BARTON: The choices to do drugs. I started doing drugs and drinking alcohol at an early age, probably around 13 years old. Like I said, my mother had her hands full with my three younger siblings. I found comfort in doing drugs, and the people that did the drugs was like a family. They accepted me for who I was, which was into the drug scene.
CTV: Can you talk a little more about how drugs have affected your life?
BARTON: I've done drugs and drank alcohol for most of my life. And about every time I had a run-in with the law was from either drinking or doing drugs. I had a few DUIs, and I used to fight from being on drugs and being around that type of atmosphere. Drugs and alcohol both, if you're around that, there's trouble not far behind.
CTV: Did you receive treatment for drug addiction before coming to prison?
BARTON: No ...
well, yeah, I went to a weekend intervention
one time because of a DUI. It was a
mandatory weekend intervention that I had to
go through which didn
CTV: How did that go?
BARTON: It went well. After I got out of prison, I didn't use drugs or alcohol. I found the tools that I needed to use to be a productive citizen in society.
CTV: What are those tools?
BARTON: To stay
away from them. There are more things you
can do to occupy your time. I guess I
thought of myself as a recreational user.
Well, there is no recreational user. The
drugs, they lead to trouble. You
CTV: Do you have any biological children?
BARTON: Yes, I have one.
CTV: What is your relationship with him or her?
BARTON: It
CTV: How were you employed when you were released in 2002?
BARTON: I worked at a print shop.
CTV: Doing what?
BARTON: Maintenance man, keeping the maintenance up on the machines.
CTV: Before you
went to prison in
BARTON: I had a
number of jobs, in construction. I
CTV: Why?
BARTON: Well, it
didn
CTV: And what was it like leaving prison in 2002, after nine years?
BARTON: Leaving
prison. I've never been more terrified in my
life. The times had changed so much that I
couldn
CTV: What else was different?
BARTON: Time
itself has changed so much. I couldn
CTV: It was only two years after your release that you were back in prison. Do you feel like maybe in some way you wanted to go back there?
BARTON: No, I felt
like maybe I had become institutionalized,
and couldn
CTV: Why?
BARTON: Why? It
CTV: Now, I
BARTON: Yes, well, I knew Kimbirli since school. We went to high school together, so I knew her for probably 30-some years. She was married to a friend of mine for 20 years.
CTV: And how did you reconnect with her while you were in custody?
BARTON: I was a
friend, so I was always around. ... When I
went to prison I stayed in contact with her
and her husband. I wrote and they wrote me
letters. ... And then when I got out of
prison, she was going through some rough
times in her marriage. I had gotten married
in prison to a lady from
We had always been best of friends. We could tell each other anything. She didn't look at me one way or the other. She looked at me for who I was, you know. Just Rocky. And we fell in love. When we was going through our divorces, it was just something that happened. It wasn't something that we planned on, we was just there for each other and it was good. It felt right.
CTV: So, when did all this happen between you?
BARTON: Out of
prison, on parole. When I paroled in
CTV: And then you went back?
BARTON: Then I went back, I got a parole violation. Really, it was because of her ex-husband and my ex-wife. They kept calling my parole officer on me, saying I was doing drugs. They said that I stole his guns, and my ex-wife had me arrested for domestic violence when all it was was we got in an argument when I went to get my things. There was a sheriff there at the time but they still convicted me of telephone harassment and domestic violence.
CTV: So what
happened on
BARTON: I don't know. I hadn't planned on killing her that day. I had planned on killing myself in front of her, that was the only way that I knew how I could hurt her. When she showed up, it was just a spur-of-the-moment thing. It was just anger, and I was hurt.
CTV: Why did you want to hurt her? Why were you feeling hurt?
BARTON: Because
she had threatened to leave me. And I couldn
CTV: What
BARTON: My biggest regret is killing my wife. I mean, I loved her more than anything. I've been married four times, and I loved her more than any woman on this earth, besides my mother. I'm paying for it every day. I miss her bad. I miss her so bad. And her kids, I've been around them ever since they were born, because I was a friend of the family. And they even stated in court that I was more of a father to her than her real father was, which made me feel good, but then again, it made me feel bad. You know, because I'd betrayed them.
CTV: Do you have any other regrets?
BARTON: That
I wasn
CTV: How old is he now?
BARTON: My son will be 31 on July 22.
CTV: Why did you decide to terminate your appeals?
BARTON: Well, instead of sitting on death row for 10 or 20 years and having the stress of fighting the legal system. I don't think I could stand it. I can't stand it mentally. So, mainly it's because of guilt for what I done. I feel like I deserve to die.
CTV: Do you think life in prison without parole would be harder or easier?
BARTON: Life
in prison would be
worse ... Because
either way you
CTV: Do you expect any friends or family to be at your execution?
BARTON: Yes.
There
CTV: Are you religious?
BARTON: Yes
ma
CTV: What do you think will happen to you when you die?
BARTON: I believe I'll go to heaven. We have a forgiving God, and I've asked God to forgive me of my sins and forgive me for killing my wife. And I believe in my heart that God has forgiven me. It's hard for me to forgive myself, but if God can forgive me, and He's the almighty, then you know. It's still hard to forgive myself.
CTV: With only four days until your execution, are you ready to die?
BARTON: Yes,
I am at peace in my
heart. I have peace.
So, I am ready to
die. I
CTV: Is there
anything you want people to know about you
that they don
BARTON: Well,
believe it or not, I do have a big heart, a
kind heart. But I had an anger problem that
I couldn
CTV: Is there anything you want to be remembered for?
BARTON: I can
I'm a good guy at heart. I try to be. I'm not the monster that they made me out to be during the trial. I mean, I did a terrible, terrible thing, which I'm paying for. But at least I've dropped my appeals, and I'm taking my punishment like a man. I'm standing up and taking responsibility for what I done. I'm not trying to look for some loophole to beat the system, where I've lived all my life trying to beat the system and take the easy way out. So, I guess that's what I'd like to be remembered for. For standing up and taking responsibility for what I done. I guess you could call that integrity of some sort.
CTV: Was there
anything you didn
BARTON: Yes, I
always wanted to go to